2005 Rule Changes FAQ
Answers to Frequently Asked Questions

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Q: Which rubber sheets are now legal?
A: Here are the 10 legal sheets listed on www.hardbat.com:

      Leyland (Hock rubber)
      Andro Classic
      Butterfly Orthodox
      Dunlop Barna Original
      RITC "Dr Evil"
      RITC 563 (to be phased out Feb 2007)
      Hallmark MagicPips
      Alphatool ATP Reisman
      TSP Millitall
      Yasaka A12
      Yasaka Cobolt

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Q: I understand it has to be the same type on both sides.
   Does it have to be the same color?

A: No, both sides can be any color, either the same or
   any combination (except white or yellow).

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Q: The rule says it has to be the same "brand" on both
   sides.  Does this mean I can have Yasaka A-1-2 on
   one side and Yasaka Cobolt on the other?

A: The committee intended the word "brand" to mean the
   designation or type stamped on the rubber, not the
   company.  So no, the two sides should be the same
   brand and type.  We will likely clarify the wording
   at our next meeting.

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Q: I understand that it's now illegal to have sponge
   even on the backside of a penhold paddle.  Why??

A: At last year's nationals, we had complaints of
   a player *unintentionally* hitting periodically
   with a sponge backside, and it was surprisingly
   difficult to police - even for an umpire (unlike a
   paint-sheet for which it is easy to hear the
   difference).  There were also complaints that bats
   with sponge on the backside had more of a sponge-like
   trampoline effect even on the non-sponge side.
   As unlikely as that might sound, the committee
   decided that it would be simpler just to require
   players to not have sponge at all on their paddles.

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Q: Which blades are now legal?

A: Any all-wood blade - this has not changed

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Q: What about cheap recreational bats?

A: We tried to pretty much make them all legal, and
   listed all that we knew of.  Since then, we've learned
   of a couple more that we missed.  We will try to make
   the list more complete after the Nationals, but if there's
   one you want to use in Vegas, bring it.  If it's pretty
   much like the others, we'll likely let you use it.

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Q: Why is the list so short?  Why the change?

A: The hardbat committee has spent the past several years
   considering standardizing to less spinny hardrubber
   surfaces.  This has been an ongoing debate since 1998,
   when the committee first convened.  But only last year,
   when a British company reverse-engineered the old Hock
   rubber, was this a viable proposal.

   At first, the committee voted to standardize to the
   new Hock rubber.  However, it became unclear whether
   this rubber would be available in sufficient quantities
   and with sufficiently stable quality for the Nationals.
   So in the interim, it was decided to transition to a
   relatively small number of less spinny choices.  We will
   revisit possible standardization to one rubber next year.

   We realize that the new rules aren't perfect, and that
   having to change rubber sheets is disruptive.  But we
   think that it is easier to make such fundamental changes
   and experiments NOW, when the sport is young, rather than
   in the future when things become entrenched.  We hope
   that players will join us in this period of experimentation
   and give us their feedback.  Remember, it may be less
   spinny and powerful - but that's also true for your
   opponent.

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Q: How did the committee choose the 10 rubbers?

A: Last year, a subcommittee tested all of the hardbat
   rubber sheets available, and placed them into four
   categories with category 1 being the most classical,
   and category 4 being the least.  We decided to make
   those in categories 1 and 2 legal, and reject those
   in categories 3 and 4.

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Q: Why is Dr. Evil on the list?  Isn't it medium pips?

A: Several players, including a former national hardbat champ,
   have stated that Dr. Evil is the closest thing to Leyland
   of any modern short pip rubber.  We have no control over
   claims that are made in the advertisements.

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Q: Why is 563 being "phased out" as of Feb 2007?

A: Although our tests concluded that 563 is an appropriate hardbat
   surface, a lot of players complained after the 2005 Nationals that
   it did not play in a classical style.  Although we do receive lots
   of opinions and complaints, this one complaint was so common that
   we became convinced that we had made an error in our original
   conclusion, and have decided to remove 563 from the list.

   The president of the hardbat committee, Mike Babuin, wanted to give
   players some time to make the change, and not surprise anyone at the
   upcoming Nationals.  So he decided to implement the changes by making
   563 "ok" for the 2006 Nationals, and removing it after February 2007.

   Note that RITC-Dr.Evil, which is now legal is a similarly priced
   rubber made by the same manufacturer.

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Q: Why is Millitall on the list?  Doesn't it come with sponge?

A: No.  MINICAL comes with sponge.  TSP-Millitall is a
   self-adhesive hard-rubber only available without sponge.
   Several people have written to me confusing the two.

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Q: Why isn't 799 on the list?  What about Miracle or NP-8?

A: The subcommittee considered them to be quite spinnier than
   the others and placed them into category 3.  Others as
   well, although these are the ones people most ask me about.

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Q: Why all this fuss about spinniness?  NP-8 doesn't produce
   nearly as much spin as sponge rubbers.

A: While it's true that the spinniest hardrubbers are still
   less spinny than rubber with sponge, there has been an
   ongoing sense among committee members (and several players
   and directors) that hardbat should avoid facing the same
   "arms race" that has plagued competitive table tennis.
   Although this is admittedly a controversial decision,
   that is the reason the committee moved in the direction
   that it did.

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Q: Who's behind this?  Is Marty Reisman behind it?

A: Marty is a committee member and has argued for standardization
   for many years.  However, he has not been alone.  The current
   rules change was originally drafted in 2004 by committee member
   Al Papp, and underwent several rewrites over the following months
   with input from various committee members.  The final votes were
   one-sided, but not unanimous.  Marty abstained from voting since
   one of the approved rubbers bears his name.  Members Papp,
   Stadelman, Grinnell, Gordon, Mann, and Reisman all wrote arguments
   in favor of the proposal.  Member Ty Hoff wrote against it.
   (Two of the members who wrote in favor of the proposal ended
   up abstaining).

   Here I would like to say something about Marty Reisman.
   A number of players have charged the committee with just
   doing his bidding.  If any of you have ever sat in on a
   hardbat meeting, you would KNOW this is patently UNTRUE.
   However, it is also true that nobody in the world has
   carried the hardbat banner for longer and with more passion
   than has Marty.  Although he is no longer the hardbat
   champion, he has been at the center of all of its ups and
   downs over the past 50 years - from the attempted
   standardizations of the late 1950s to the early hardbat
   events in the 1970s, to its resurrgence in 1997 and now the
   reverse-engineering of Hock rubber.  We would be crazy to
   ignore him... but we are still a committee of EIGHT, and he
   has but one vote.

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Q: Does Marty Reisman make money off the sale of Reisman rubber?

A: Marty gave his name to ATP under the proviso that they
   only place it on rubber that he believes conforms to the
   original Hock characteristics.  He receives no money from
   ATP for the use of his name, or from sales of the rubber,
   now or in the future.

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Q: Did the hardbat committee receive donations that influenced
   their decision?

A: No.  We have never received any money from any company ever,
   with the exception of several years ago when we received
   a few small donations for the 1998 Hardbat event prize
   at the Houston U.S. Open.

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Q: Who's making money off of this?

A: I don't know of anyone who has ever made any money off
   of hardbat.  I have probably donated about $5,000 to it,
   and never received a dime.  Committee member Berndt Mann
   has donated considerably more.  Marty donated some money
   to Jimmy Butler a few years ago - but that's a different
   story :)

   Players should try to remember that none of us on the
   committee are being paid.  We're all amateurs trying to
   regulate what is still in many ways a recreational activity.
   Hopefully someday hardbat will grow in stature, and also
   hopefully when it does, the rules in place will be
   sufficiently fine-tuned as to not suffer from the
   outlandish equipment mess seen in the rest of table tennis.

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Q: Won't the makers of Reisman rubber make lots of money off
   of this rule change?

A: ATP has sunk about $50,000 into developing Reisman rubber
   and is unlikely to ever recoup their expenses.  Despite this,
   we didn't standardize to ATP rubber, because there were
   too many questions about the stability, quality, and
   availability of the product.

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Q: Why weren't we told sooner?

A: The rules decision was actually made back in September.
   We posted to every internet forum that we could, and informed
   the USATT rules committee.  We also arranged for an article to
   appear in USATT Magazine.  Since it is likely that there will
   still be people who don't know about it, I am working to try
   to get a mailing list of hardbat entrants so that I can personally
   inform them.

   ATP has donated rubber sheets to the top 10 seeds in hardbat events.
   As soon as I know who they are, I will be contacting them personally.

   Having said all that, we still rely primarily on word-of-mouth.
   Many players don't read material sent to them in the mail.
   So PLEASE, if you know someone entered in a hardbat event in
   Las Vegas, pass along this information to them.  We would much
   rather people know in advance, but there is only so much we can do
   by ourselves.

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Q: Had I known about the rule change, I never would have entered.

A: If any entrant feels that strongly about the rule change,
   let me (Scott Gordon) know, and I will personally pay you
   the expense of your hardbat entry fee(s) if you now would
   rather not play, and if it's too late to withdraw with a refund.
   It was never my nor our intent to deliberately trick or mislead anyone.

   Naturally, we hope that players who disagree will still play.
   It is only by observation and experience that we can evaluate
   the effects of our ruling - if any - on the nature of play that results.
   We may learn that there is no effect on the rallies - or we may learn
   that people like the reduced spin and that it extends rallies.
   There is only one way to find out.

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Q: What about changing to the 38mm ball?

A: In 2006, we will be considering a proposal to move back
   to the 38mm ball for hardbat events.  There appear to still
   be large quantities available, and there have even been a
   couple of generous offers of donations (of balls, not money)
   in that regard.  Any opinions on this issue are welcome
   input into our deliberations.

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Q: What IS the hardbat committee, and how did it get the
   authority to set rules?

A: The committee was formed in 1998 at the request of the
   then USATT president, and charged with formulating rules
   for hardbat events.  Scott Gordon was appointed president
   and has held that post since.  There have been a few
   membership changes since then, but 5 of the seats have
   remained unchanged.  There are 8 members.  Every change
   in membership is approved by USATT.  USATT committees and
   their contact information is available at www.usatt.com.

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Q: Who can I contact to express my (glee/horror)?

A: Scott Gordon is the committee chair.  His email
   address is sgordon@hardbat.com.  You can also
   contact Al Papp, who has been acting as vice
   chairman, at al@mindgrip.com.  Note that I am
   a college professor and, when finals approach,
   I become a bit overwhelmed.  So be patient with me.

   There will also be a meeting in Las Vegas at the
   nationals.  See Scott on Wednesday to get a flyer.
   It will likely be on Friday evening, since other
   nights are taken up with other important activities
   (Hall of Fame banquet, open Finals, etc.).
   We anticipate hearing a lot of player feedback
   at the meeting, and would like to hear yours too.

   You can also express your opinions to any of
   the committee members at any time.  Contrary to
   what people think, we don't operate in a vaccuum,
   but instead interact with players constantly and
   try to weigh the merits of a tremendous diversity
   of opinions.  We are easy to find at the Vegas
   nationals, as we are usually clumped here and
   there, playing fun games and laughing a lot.
   Please join us at any time... but be warned that
   you just might get roped into a clipboard match!

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